Defamation consultation
I've put a commentable version of the MoJ Defamation consultation up at http://www.commentonthis.com/defamation
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Saturday, October 10, 2009
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8 Comments:
Ah! Only just seen this. Good stuff. We've republished the consultation, too on WriteToReply: http://writetoreply.org/defamation/ :-)
Maybe we could find a way of working together on future consultations? Open to any ideas but could start with giving each other advance notice on what we're planning on republishing and helping to advertise each other's sites?
You hadn't published it when I posted it to CoT.
My process is generally "Has anyone else done it? No? ok, and starting working". There's active disincentive for both sites to publish the same thing, due to splitting of comments and the damage to the network effects.
CoT generally doesn't get any advertising anywhere, so I'm happy to share, but that doesn't help you at all. Plus, you have a non-trivial pot of money from JISC to do this stuff.
CoT has pretty much stopped publishing anything that I'm not directly interested in. There are other sites out there doing different bits in different ways, of which you are one.
Definitely our mistake here. We had no idea you'd republished it and wouldn't have done so had we known. I agree that splitting comments helps no-one.
The money from JISC doesn't fund our time re-publishing documents on WriteToReply. It funds a little of our time at work to develop the software and the ideas around online consultations, all of which we share openly in the hope that someone else will find them useful. I'd be happy to help anyone set up a site like WriteToReply and so the work we're doing and the JISCPress project aims to make that easier through improved software and lots of documentation.
The Defamation document was worked on in the early hours of the morning to get it out and largely the work of a member of the public who asked us for a site to re-publish the document. All we did was set the site up and proof read prior to publication.
You sound a bit pissed off in your comment. I hope I'm wrong. I'd be more than happy to push traffic to CoT when you re-publish consultations and definitely don't want to duplicate effort. Like you, we're only really interested in publishing consultations we're interested in. The idea has always been that anyone can ask us for a site to re-publish a consultation that they're interested in, which unfortunately rarely happens but did in the case of the Defamation document.
When I said 'advertising', I meant it in terms of advocacy and increasing the network effect. We'd be happy to link to, blog/tweet about your work.
Not at all pissed off.
The ultimate aim for CoT is to turn it off because it is no longer necessary, as places do that by themselves, or there is another online service which works better (current idea being google wave with a custom wavelet).
It's good that other people are trying ideas in the area, and it's better that more people are doing stuff. In terms of communication of plans, following the payoff of laziness, not republishing something that someone else has seems to work as a plan. Rarely we'll duplicate, but that's probably less work than co-ordination.
When you submit your defamation comments to MoJ, could you include the CoT comments as well?
Well, we definitely share the same ultimate aim :-)
Yes, happy to include the CoT comments with our submission. Are they available as exported data? We generally import the RSS into a Google Docs spreadsheet and submit that.
Otherwise, happy to copy and paste.
rss feed at: http://www.commentonthis.com/defamation/rss
The defamation consultation at Write To Reply was my idea. If I'd known you had done one I'd have linked to it rather than duplicate effort.
It should be possible for people working in the public consultation space to keep each other informed and share experience. Government departments as well.
We all have a lot to learn about UX, document design and making the consultation process easier for non tech people.
The Wave idea sounds interesting.
I've added a note to our front page about your site and the joint submission of comments.
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